05-02-2018, 04:16 AM
Quote:(05-01-2018, 02:26 PM)DarkPlouf Wrote:Quote:I think to get more conscious and get more control over your subconscious mind one way to do that is to do meditation. As you remove the mindless chatter in your mind you get more control over your body and you are less prone to get lost in mindless thought that removes you from conscious decisionI've been meditating since 3 years now. I do it at a daily basis on and off. Sometimes I go on streaks and streaks when I get disciplined enough. Well I don't know about getting more control over the subconscious mind but all I know is that when I meditate thoroughly at a daily basis I manifest all sort of stuff that have been on my mind. It happens a lot that I think about events that'll happen very soon. Like the last time it happened I was thinking of printing a picture on my shirt and a day after a friend texted me his newly printed t-shirt and asked me what I think. That happens a lot for small thoughts that pop in my mind.
Not sure about the control thing but something's odd with it. For me at least.
Quote:what's your opinion on that, do you think meditation would help subliminal work better?Science says meditation increases neuroplasticity. So theoretically that helps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
(Sources easy to find on google)
Quote:@Then do you think it makes sense to say "Just choose to execute the script and it'll work period" since the one who can only make the decision to execute or not is subconscious mind and not the user, from his own very will ??DarkPloufI have personally observed while doing hypnosis on others that the subconscious does indeed take decision
That was my point actually. If we agree that the subconscious can make decision regardless of the user will then there is no room for that silly reasoning.
The subconscious IS the user. Why is this so hard for you guys to get? You guys think what you call your conscious mind is "you" and the subconscious mind is some alien entity. No. You have a left arm and a right arm, and they are both ARMS, and they are both part of YOU. The whole of your awareness may have different levels of awareness and differing understandings of logic, etc. but it is all still YOU. There is no "me vs it" as you seem to be so intent on insisting on. No silly reasoning. It is all you. And when YOU choose to execute, the script will get executed. Just like when YOU choose to not pee the bed while you are asleep, you wake up, get up and go to the bathroom.
Quote:As I said:
[quote]If the subconscious CAN decide and act regardless of the user's will, then that explains resistance. But that also destroy all these "take responsibility" speeches, because the user can't take responsibility for another member of the ship he can't control.
Idk why this board always tends to go on negative extremes. Like if it wasn't dangerous and destructive enough to acknowledge the existence of "resistance", basically the fact that the subconscious WANTS TO **** with its owner, now that keeps on blaming the victim.
Talking about personal growth....
It's dangerous and destructive to acknowledge the existence of the reason why people are not achieving the goals of the program? And here I thought that we could not face and deal with the issue otherwise. Silly me.
And once again, the subconscious does not have an owner. The subconscious is not an object, or an alien, or a pet, or a snail. It is a different part of YOU. Your subconscious is as much YOU as your conscious is YOU, and maybe moreso, given how limited the "conscious mind" actually is by comparison.
Victim? Are we back to helplessness now?
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!