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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-29-2021

(07-29-2021, 08:17 AM)THolt Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 08:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 02:10 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: I'm wondering why the recommended running time form E5 has remained 8 months. I assumed the levelling up in technology would result in less months of running time. Just like OFv3 is 6 months.

The thing is, you guys keep asking for the most difficult subs to make achieve their goals.  OF, E5, ME... all of these represent the most difficult things a subliminal can be asked to do.  

As incredibly difficult as OF is, E5 is even more so because it's trying to remove fear and then clear and heal and process emotional pain, traumas, etc.  It didn't make me happy that it was indicated for 8 months, but that's what was indicated.  There is likely a speed limit to how fast a person can process these things.  Better technology, faster technology, does not change the limits at which a human can heal.

But the length of time did drop from 9 months on v4, IIRC.

If you run OFV3 first, it would likely make E5’s job easier.

That is true.  But there's a reason why I don't have a sub called "Instant Healing Speed".  Physically, mentally, emotionally and otherwise, changing too fast is not a good thing.  The adjustment must take into account all of the parts being changed, and fear is just one of many parts of the changes that E5 makes, influences and is influenced by.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Z-Man - 07-29-2021

(07-28-2021, 04:54 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 03:54 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Shannon I have done E2 for 15 months, E3 for 4 months, LTU V5 for 1 year and now OF 5.75.1 V1 for 8 months. I have a lot of childhood trauma and a lot of fears. Fears of abandonment and life itself. My mother made me fear everything. I want to be healed and start having a good life and be comfortable in my own skin.

Which program with be better OF V3 or E5?

I didn't have any success with OF V1. I know you have overcoming fear in E5.

OFv3.  Hands down.

Why would you say that? Are you and your GF still using it and has it help her heal from all her childhood traumas?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - AbundanceCH - 07-29-2021

(07-29-2021, 10:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 08:17 AM)THolt Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 08:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 02:10 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: I'm wondering why the recommended running time form E5 has remained 8 months. I assumed the levelling up in technology would result in less months of running time. Just like OFv3 is 6 months.

The thing is, you guys keep asking for the most difficult subs to make achieve their goals.  OF, E5, ME... all of these represent the most difficult things a subliminal can be asked to do.  

As incredibly difficult as OF is, E5 is even more so because it's trying to remove fear and then clear and heal and process emotional pain, traumas, etc.  It didn't make me happy that it was indicated for 8 months, but that's what was indicated.  There is likely a speed limit to how fast a person can process these things.  Better technology, faster technology, does not change the limits at which a human can heal.

But the length of time did drop from 9 months on v4, IIRC.

If you run OFV3 first, it would likely make E5’s job easier.

That is true.  But there's a reason why I don't have a sub called "Instant Healing Speed".  Physically, mentally, emotionally and otherwise, changing too fast is not a good thing.  The adjustment must take into account all of the parts being changed, and fear is just one of many parts of the changes that E5 makes, influences and is influenced by.
Shannon, are you still working on the option to be able to run multiple programs at the same time? When it comes to the talk about sales there’s nothing that would help you more than that.

Because when you think about it why would anyone buy multiple subs right now when the run times are so long (8 months for example) and while that sub you’re not listening to is collecting dust an upgrade might happen in between those 8 months thus having to pay twice?

Someone that could be buying 3 subs and run them for 8 months has to resort to just buying one and just running that one sub in that same time period.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Aventus45 - 07-29-2021

any word on the final version of DMSI?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Amann - 07-30-2021

Hi @Shannon... I had a question for you as I appreciate your clear explanation of issues.

What do you believe is the cause or root issue of feeling unworthy or not enough?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - HD87 - 07-30-2021

@Shannon can you tell me what the different stages in UMSV2 do? Will FRM be in all 4 stages or only the first 3?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - LionMonkey - 07-30-2021

Hey Shannon

I'm trying to adjust to a better routine of loops and days on and off with OF v3 - can you take a look at my last post and comment on it?

I think MOOARR will be more effective for me at the moment. Also maybe should start using the hybrid instead of my usual trickling stream...

Thx!!

-LM


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-31-2021

(07-29-2021, 02:11 PM)Z-Man Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 04:54 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 03:54 PM)Z-Man Wrote: Shannon I have done E2 for 15 months, E3 for 4 months, LTU V5 for 1 year and now OF 5.75.1 V1 for 8 months. I have a lot of childhood trauma and a lot of fears. Fears of abandonment and life itself. My mother made me fear everything. I want to be healed and start having a good life and be comfortable in my own skin.

Which program with be better OF V3 or E5?

I didn't have any success with OF V1. I know you have overcoming fear in E5.

OFv3.  Hands down.

Why would you say that? Are you and your GF still using it and has it help her heal from all her childhood traumas?

Because OFv3 is many times more powerful than OFv1, and because E5 has OF, but it's not the primary focus of the program.  It's part of a number of goals that are working together, and it's not focusing on clearing out all of your fears.

I was forced by circumstances to switch to UMSv2, instead, and thus so was she.  We miss OFv3 greatly, but it's not really a choice for us right now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-31-2021

(07-29-2021, 02:22 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 10:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 08:17 AM)THolt Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 08:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 02:10 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: I'm wondering why the recommended running time form E5 has remained 8 months. I assumed the levelling up in technology would result in less months of running time. Just like OFv3 is 6 months.

The thing is, you guys keep asking for the most difficult subs to make achieve their goals.  OF, E5, ME... all of these represent the most difficult things a subliminal can be asked to do.  

As incredibly difficult as OF is, E5 is even more so because it's trying to remove fear and then clear and heal and process emotional pain, traumas, etc.  It didn't make me happy that it was indicated for 8 months, but that's what was indicated.  There is likely a speed limit to how fast a person can process these things.  Better technology, faster technology, does not change the limits at which a human can heal.

But the length of time did drop from 9 months on v4, IIRC.

If you run OFV3 first, it would likely make E5’s job easier.

That is true.  But there's a reason why I don't have a sub called "Instant Healing Speed".  Physically, mentally, emotionally and otherwise, changing too fast is not a good thing.  The adjustment must take into account all of the parts being changed, and fear is just one of many parts of the changes that E5 makes, influences and is influenced by.
Shannon, are you still working on the option to be able to run multiple programs at the same time? When it comes to the talk about sales there’s nothing that would help you more than that.

Because when you think about it why would anyone buy multiple subs right now when the run times are so long (8 months for example) and while that sub you’re not listening to is collecting dust an upgrade might happen in between those 8 months thus having to pay twice?

Someone that could be buying 3 subs and run them for 8 months has to resort to just buying one and just running that one sub in that same time period.

The further I go towards making a single title achieve its goals fully, the more I understand that no matter what I do, multiple titles at once isn't going to happen unless there is some breakthrough that just completely removes fear instantly, and then by some miracle, the user has enough energy to run 2+ as a result.  I'm not going to hold my breath.  

Look, usage times are what they are not because I want to sell one program every 8 months, but because that's what it takes to get the job done.  I could focus on selling more, more more!, but that wouldn't be doing you guys any good.  If you stop asking for the subs that take 6-9 months to make work, maybe we can get somewhere faster.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-31-2021

(07-29-2021, 06:54 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: any word on the final version of DMSI?

It's coming.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-31-2021

(07-30-2021, 01:11 AM)Amann Wrote: Hi @Shannon... I had a question for you as I appreciate your clear explanation of issues.

What do you believe is the cause or root issue of feeling unworthy or not enough?

Either being directly told that that is the case, usually at a young and impressionable age, or making that conclusion from how one is treated and spoken to by others at that age range.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 07-31-2021

(07-30-2021, 03:12 AM)HD87 Wrote: @Shannon  can you tell me what the different stages in UMSV2 do? Will FRM be in all 4 stages or only the first 3?

Stage 1 cleans out the garbage, sets up the foundation, and starts focusing you on UMS.  This stage has FRM on.

Stage 2 moves you from foundation building to building on the foundational concepts, while also working on fear removal.  It balances building up to doing as much as it focuses on doing. This stage has FRM on.

Stage 3 builds on Stage 2, and this is where you really have wings.  It's focused on doing more than building, using what you've been developing so far.  FRM is off in this stage.

Stage 4 is all of the first three stages in one, and it has FRM on.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - samba99 - 07-31-2021

(07-31-2021, 04:32 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 06:54 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: any word on the final version of DMSI?

It's coming.

I can't even imagine the results this will bring. Very exciting INDEED.

 I remember a while ago you mentioned something along the line that since now you created the shielding subs, you now have more room and flexibility to extend DMSI power and effects.
Is this still true and considered on your part? 

Thank you


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - geotrouvetout - 07-31-2021

"Heads up!

If everything goes according to plan, the price of 5.75.xG subliminals will rise to full price some time this month. Most likely in 2-3 weeks."

Sorry to read that Shannon ! Who will be able to pay 260 $ for one file ? It will be the end of Subliminal Shop ...sorry to tell you that ! Your closest competitor is selling excellent sub for 34 US $ and customized sub for around 300 US $, nearly the price you want to sell your sub. You are just cutting the branch where you are sitting and it is a pity ! (but it is good for your competitor of course !)

Just wanted to tell you that because I really enjoy your products but I can't pay 260 US $ for one file. In this case I will just stop patronize your shop and I am ready you delete my account.

BTW your E5 is fantastic but i can't pay 260 $ for it. Don't forget you are not alone on this niche !