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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - josh84 - 12-18-2020

Hi Shannon, i only asked regarding upgrade before as i havent been following the forum or using subliminals for a bit recently when see no improvements or very little i decided to just take a break and wasnt sure what was happening so i asked as i mentioned i expected it to be a new purchase as your running a business.

I am willing to buy the new overcoming fear v2 since you say there are some big improvements so for those that have had little success do you believe the big improvements you made to this program will work better for those that have always had issues with subliminals working?

I was waiting for dmsi but as theres been setbacks it could be still quite a while for a new update?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - KingDavid93 - 12-18-2020

Hi @Shannon

How many generations of 5.75 xG do you estimate that there will be until we hit full 6G and/or will there be another generational jump between 5.75G to 6G, like with 5.5 to 5.75?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 12-18-2020

(12-17-2020, 10:54 PM)TouchyCat Wrote: @Shannon After you are finished with OF v2, what's the next sub? I am very much considering on what to buy after finishing OF v1.

I also want to ask regarding DMSI. Will DMSI users receive free upgrade/s? You take down the sales page afterall while I remembered there will be two more upgrades.

I'm planning to build LTUv6 stage 6 next and then I'm hoping to work on the issues I have with DMSI.  There is also a prototype experimental or two that needs to be built for testing purposes.  

There will be two more free upgrades to DMSI: 3.3.3 and 3.4.  After that I won't be working on DMSI 3.x anymore, and any changes I make will go towards the 4.x line, which will not be free upgrade.

We took down the sales page because we were expecting to release 3.3.3 before I hit the snag with outward facing FRM.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 12-18-2020

(12-17-2020, 11:35 PM)SouthPaw Wrote: Hi Shannon how about you sell a course to teach people how to make subliminals just to the level of 3g and 4g now that you are not making them anymore?

I am trying to create my own but I am stuck because there are many ways and I don't know which one is right and I can't keep testing every method.  I am definitely not interested in selling any because I think it's a very boring job with all the requests and complaining.  I just want to create my own and have the power.

Every time someone makes their own subliminal, they're not buying one of mine.  Selling a course in how to do it means you pay me once, and then you make all the subliminals you want.  That's one reason: it's not financially in my best interest, unless you pay me everything I would otherwise make when you pay me.  Are you going to pay me hundreds or thousands of dollars? And then we have piracy.  Someone would pirate the course, and then my effort to earnings ratio drops to maybe 5% of what it should be.  In the end, I end up making MAYBE 1% of what I would have made had I not made the course, and that's being generous.

Another reason is that even if I teach people how to script them properly, that does not guarantee that everyone will get it, understand it, and/or implement it correctly - read, safely.

Oh, and you're right - it is an EXTREMELY boring job most of the time.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - K-Train - 12-18-2020

Hey Shannon, first off don't stress over this post. Feel free to think over this stuff at your own convenience .

You're facing a lot of challenges (understatement of the millennium) in regards to finding products to release that will help keep the company afloat.  @lano1106 and a few other members have already mentioned that sex and money based products are usually consistent sellers. I would also propose looking at the current industries and groups of individuals that are still in operation during COVID. Those industries are (especially in the USA) : health care, education, stocks and general business. So perhaps products that are geared specifically towards people in those fields would sell? If products already exist for those individuals then perhaps change the marketing strategy to directly advertising items geared towards those groups. Another thing to consider that is gaining attention is "quarantine pounds/weight" which is basically the increase in weight some people (myself included) have experienced due to gym closures and/or decreased opportunities for recreational activites. This may open the avenue for subliminals that act as metabolism boosters, natural HGB boosters, general fitness enhancers, etc. 

Just throwing ideas out there. You're about to release OF and while I know you probably won't do it (not because you don't want to but because you probably just can't right now) I do hope you are able to at least get some mental breathing room and rest for your own health and wellness sake.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 12-18-2020

(12-18-2020, 05:01 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, i only asked regarding upgrade before as i havent been following the forum or using subliminals for a bit recently when see no improvements or very little i decided to just take a break and wasnt sure what was happening so i asked as i mentioned i expected it to be a new purchase as your running a business.

I am willing to buy the new overcoming fear v2 since you say there are some big improvements so for those that have had little success do you believe the big improvements you made to this program will work better for those that have always had issues with subliminals working?

I was waiting for dmsi but as theres been setbacks it could be still quite a while for a new update?

I am hesitant to suggest that you keep buying subliminals, regardless of improvements, because so far I have to conclude that one of three things is happening.

1. You cannot sufficiently hear or make out what is being said in the programs.
2. You are among the most resistant, stubborn people I have ever seen.
3. A combination of the two.

I suggest that you should wait to even consider buying a copy of OF v2 until you see how it performs for everyone else for a few months, and then consider the option.  If you are having difficulty hearing the script, or are not hearing it clearly enough to really understand, no script improvement in the world will likely help.  

If, on the other hand, your issue is that of resistance, then the new build methods and the new advancements may very well help.

However, you have spent a lot of time and money trying to get results and I don't like seeing people spend money and not get the desired results.  I want you to get what you pay for, and I appreciate both your frustration and your patronage.  I don't want you to spend money without getting results, though.  So my advice is to want a few months, watch how it works for others, and then consider the pros and cons of buying a copy.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 12-18-2020

(12-18-2020, 07:37 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Hi @Shannon

How many generations of 5.75 xG do you estimate that there will be until we hit full 6G and/or will there be another generational jump between 5.75G to 6G, like with 5.5 to 5.75?

I don't know.  I know that 5.75.5G is likely to be the last significant breakthrough for a while, at least.  I don't know if there will be something that pushes it to 5.85G, 5.95G, etc. before 6G.  So it could be that 6G is the next major advancement, but I would bet on at least one more major advancement before that happens, and possibly several.  6G is a ways out yet, but we are getting relatively close.  Hopefully we can get there in 2021.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 12-18-2020

So is all that's left, calculating days on and off, and the ideal usage time in x months, Shannon? Seems like the sales page will just need bullet points about improvements in the new version, not a complete rewrite.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - SouthPaw - 12-18-2020

(12-18-2020, 10:04 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 11:35 PM)SouthPaw Wrote: Hi Shannon how about you sell a course to teach people how to make subliminals just to the level of 3g and 4g now that you are not making them anymore?

I am trying to create my own but I am stuck because there are many ways and I don't know which one is right and I can't keep testing every method.  I am definitely not interested in selling any because I think it's a very boring job with all the requests and complaining.  I just want to create my own and have the power.

Every time someone makes their own subliminal, they're not buying one of mine.  Selling a course in how to do it means you pay me once, and then you make all the subliminals you want.  That's one reason: it's not financially in my best interest, unless you pay me everything I would otherwise make when you pay me.  Are you going to pay me hundreds or thousands of dollars? And then we have piracy.  Someone would pirate the course, and then my effort to earnings ratio drops to maybe 5% of what it should be.  In the end, I end up making MAYBE 1% of what I would have made had I not made the course, and that's being generous.

Another reason is that even if I teach people how to script them properly, that does not guarantee that everyone will get it, understand it, and/or implement it correctly - read, safely.

Oh, and you're right - it is an EXTREMELY boring job most of the time.

Most people are lazy and want a finished product and are always after the latest tech. What I want is something functional like a 99£ smart phone that's why 3g and 4g is fine. Not all your secrets. People will still buy your latest products.

OK Shannon I am going to throw in some basic sub making questions and you can just ignore them if you want:

1. Tempo or speed? I prefer tempo. Can I go all the way for example to 500% or more or is this too much?
2. Layering or no layering? Is there any benefit or does it just distort the audio?
3. "I am.." affirmations in one ear and "you are.." in the other. Stereo. Or one language in one ear and a second language in another. What do you think of that?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Frosted - 12-18-2020

Can anyone else see the likes on a post? Am I missing something because ever since the forum was changed awhile back I can't see how many likes or who liked a post. I also can't find an option to show or hide it in my account control panel.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - lano1106 - 12-18-2020

I do see likes and I think that this is because I'm still use the old classical skin.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 12-18-2020

(12-18-2020, 10:48 AM)SouthPaw Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 10:04 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 11:35 PM)SouthPaw Wrote: Hi Shannon how about you sell a course to teach people how to make subliminals just to the level of 3g and 4g now that you are not making them anymore?

I am trying to create my own but I am stuck because there are many ways and I don't know which one is right and I can't keep testing every method.  I am definitely not interested in selling any because I think it's a very boring job with all the requests and complaining.  I just want to create my own and have the power.

Every time someone makes their own subliminal, they're not buying one of mine.  Selling a course in how to do it means you pay me once, and then you make all the subliminals you want.  That's one reason: it's not financially in my best interest, unless you pay me everything I would otherwise make when you pay me.  Are you going to pay me hundreds or thousands of dollars? And then we have piracy.  Someone would pirate the course, and then my effort to earnings ratio drops to maybe 5% of what it should be.  In the end, I end up making MAYBE 1% of what I would have made had I not made the course, and that's being generous.

Another reason is that even if I teach people how to script them properly, that does not guarantee that everyone will get it, understand it, and/or implement it correctly - read, safely.

Oh, and you're right - it is an EXTREMELY boring job most of the time.

Most people are lazy and want a finished product and are always after the latest tech.  What I want is something functional like a 99£ smart phone that's why 3g and 4g is fine. Not all your secrets.  People will still buy your latest products.

OK Shannon I am going to throw in some basic sub making questions and you can just ignore them if you want:

1. Tempo or speed?  I prefer tempo.  Can I go all the way for example to 500% or more or is this too much?
2. Layering or no layering?  Is there any benefit or does it just distort the audio?
3. "I am.." affirmations in one ear and "you are.." in the other.  Stereo.  Or one language in one ear and a second language in another.  What do you think of that?

1. Tempo and speed mean different things in different situations.  I don't know what they mean to you, but I will tell you that I had to figure out the optimal speed to use over the course of years, and that is a closely guarded secret.  Too slow and it's not all it could be, too fast and you're listening to static.  If you're not willing or able to figure out the peak, then 200% is a safe bet.

2. Layering also could mean different things.  I'm not sure what you mean here, but I use multiple different tracks overlaid in the mixdown I create my subliminals from.  How many is another closely guarded secret.

3. I use "I am".  Some people claim that's the wrong choice.  I create my base tracks in stereo audio.  As for multiple languages at once, it can work, but may not be optimal.  Some people make one ear hear the track played in reverse, and the other hear it played forward.  Some use different scripts in each ear.  Some use different languages in each ear.  All of this can work, but none of it is what I have concluded is the best option.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Z-Man - 12-18-2020

(12-18-2020, 02:05 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 10:48 AM)SouthPaw Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 10:04 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 11:35 PM)SouthPaw Wrote: Hi Shannon how about you sell a course to teach people how to make subliminals just to the level of 3g and 4g now that you are not making them anymore?

I am trying to create my own but I am stuck because there are many ways and I don't know which one is right and I can't keep testing every method.  I am definitely not interested in selling any because I think it's a very boring job with all the requests and complaining.  I just want to create my own and have the power.

Every time someone makes their own subliminal, they're not buying one of mine.  Selling a course in how to do it means you pay me once, and then you make all the subliminals you want.  That's one reason: it's not financially in my best interest, unless you pay me everything I would otherwise make when you pay me.  Are you going to pay me hundreds or thousands of dollars? And then we have piracy.  Someone would pirate the course, and then my effort to earnings ratio drops to maybe 5% of what it should be.  In the end, I end up making MAYBE 1% of what I would have made had I not made the course, and that's being generous.

Another reason is that even if I teach people how to script them properly, that does not guarantee that everyone will get it, understand it, and/or implement it correctly - read, safely.

Oh, and you're right - it is an EXTREMELY boring job most of the time.

Most people are lazy and want a finished product and are always after the latest tech.  What I want is something functional like a 99£ smart phone that's why 3g and 4g is fine. Not all your secrets.  People will still buy your latest products.

OK Shannon I am going to throw in some basic sub making questions and you can just ignore them if you want:

1. Tempo or speed?  I prefer tempo.  Can I go all the way for example to 500% or more or is this too much?
2. Layering or no layering?  Is there any benefit or does it just distort the audio?
3. "I am.." affirmations in one ear and "you are.." in the other.  Stereo.  Or one language in one ear and a second language in another.  What do you think of that?

1. Tempo and speed mean different things in different situations.  I don't know what they mean to you, but I will tell you that I had to figure out the optimal speed to use over the course of years, and that is a closely guarded secret.  Too slow and it's not all it could be, too fast and you're listening to static.  If you're not willing or able to figure out the peak, then 200% is a safe bet.

2. Layering also could mean different things.  I'm not sure what you mean here, but I use multiple different tracks overlaid in the mixdown I create my subliminals from.  How many is another closely guarded secret.

3. I use "I am".  Some people claim that's the wrong choice.  I create my base tracks in stereo audio.  As for multiple languages at once, it can work, but may not be optimal.  Some people make one ear hear the track played in reverse, and the other hear it played forward.  Some use different scripts in each ear.  Some use different languages in each ear.  All of this can work, but none of it is what I have concluded is the best option.

Shannon, Do you use text to speech or your own voice?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 12-18-2020

@Shannon , do you just have to calculate ASRB2 and then we can go live with OF V2? I'd like to start loops at midnight, Ben seems available to process orders too so it's perfect.

I mean, unless you want to go eat a steak now or something...lol...