(09-03-2025, 08:34 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-03-2025, 08:24 PM)Catman Wrote: @Shannon,

Just a thought...for OPH 6G...

Have you considered running the grounding shield against these two possibilities?

1. The Black Hole Shield - maybe to "disconnect and focus on oneself" while healing. Kind of a "lick the wounds in private" deal. I know the 4 day time on the standalone could be a roadblock obviously, but depending on any constraints that can possibly be removed around that just for this specific sub, it may be possible to consider that sub. (Conflicts with energy flooding subs, such as OPH)

2. The Transformational Absorption Shield - maybe to assist farming energy for the program's goals, which would no doubt require a great deal? This sub always seemed very interesting. I know DRS is what it is, but I've always thought this one sounded intriguing somehow.

I have run all those and more through the models.  Interestingly, the BHS would work with this program, because (as a safety measure) it is only active while you are actually listening to the subliminal.  This means that it would also be useless for once you're done with your loop or loops... and thus... not appropriate.

The TAS also is inappropriate because it requires such an amount of energy todo the transformation part, which would steal from the healing and distract from that focus also.

Only the Grounding Shield is truly suitable... as you would expect, since this is what it was specifically designed for: the healing process and subliminal.

More than 10 different shield variants were tested, many of which I have never even spoken about.  And no, now is not the time to speak of them, oh curious cats.

(09-04-2025, 07:39 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, you mentioned in a post extreme hard cases but in the instructions on the dmsi 5.1 page only has normal and hard cases, what are the instructions for the extreme hard cases to use?

Thanks
Josh.

(09-01-2025, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-01-2025, 02:56 PM)Eddie Morra Wrote: @Shannon  How is it going for the Extreme Hard Cases with DMSI V5.1 & 5.0?

I posted earlier that I am not going to be doing Extreme Hard Cases, since CatMan was the whole point of doing that, and it turns out that he doesn't fit in with that group, and that group would number less than a few people over the next 10 years.  So use Hard Cases instructions.

(09-04-2025, 04:14 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: I just checked the product page for DMSI 5 and 5.1, as I might run this in 2 months or so, and noticed a discrepancy in the instructions for Normal case.
On the v5 page, it says to run 1 loop (20min) daily.
On the v5.1 page, it says to run 4 loops (80min). Why would they be different?
It’s a big difference in listening time.

Shannon Wrote:Grounding shield is getting a significant upgrade.

I'm going through and optimizing it in every way I can find to optimize it.

Will probably be creating a stand alone version of it alongside OPH v3.

(09-04-2025, 12:47 PM)Sky Wrote: @Shannon At what point will you make the manifestation subs? I want to find my perfect romantic lover, but I'm having a hard time with that. I'm running DMSI to get rid of sexual subconscious issues. I know DMSI is not used for romance, so I get that, but I've always wanted to try DMSI and see what happens to me once I finish one run through. I'm running the hard case.

I have a laundry list of subs in 6G I want to run. AM7 being the next, then an AYP, and then MLS 6G.

Shannon Wrote:To everyone journaling about their DMSI 5/5.1 experience, 

please adjust the title of your thread to reflect which version you are using: 5.0, or 5.1. 

Thank you.

(09-03-2025, 02:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-03-2025, 12:47 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon

I’m nearing the end of my second OGSF3 run, and I’m loving the results I’ve gotten so far. I want to alternate E7 and OGSF3, but I was thinking of maybe squeezing in one more OGSF3 run before I do that. Do you think I can push for another run, or do you think that would be less than optimal?

If I do run OGSF3 again, should I take a 1-2 week break in between, or just continue without stopping? Thank you for your hard work Shannon. I really appreciate it.

You can generally take things to about the 3 month mark before you start having lessening impact because the subconscious starts getting bored, or numb, to the endless repetition.  If you're beyond that, I suggest switching.  I would take a week or two off and switch to E7 in that case.

If you're not at or near 3 months on OGSF and you can run it again, and you want to, then take a week or two off and run it again if you like.

You're welcome.  I'm pleased that my work is helping you.

(09-06-2025, 01:23 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(09-03-2025, 02:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: You can generally take things to about the 3 month mark before you start having lessening impact because the subconscious starts getting bored, or numb, to the endless repetition.  If you're beyond that, I suggest switching.  I would take a week or two off and switch to E7 in that case.

If you're not at or near 3 months on OGSF and you can run it again, and you want to, then take a week or two off and run it again if you like.

You're welcome.  I'm pleased that my work is helping you.

From what you're saying it sounds like multiple OGSF3 runs in a row is less optimal, even with a break in between. If that's the case, since I'm only 3 cycle away from finishing this run, I'll finish and then start E7 after a break, alternating with OGSF3. Thank you for the guidance.

(09-06-2025, 11:33 AM)Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III Wrote:

(09-06-2025, 01:23 AM)Frosted Wrote: From what you're saying it sounds like multiple OGSF3 runs in a row is less optimal, even with a break in between. If that's the case, since I'm only 3 cycle away from finishing this run, I'll finish and then start E7 after a break, alternating with OGSF3. Thank you for the guidance.

@Shannon  I’m sorry but I’m kind of confused by this tbh. I’m currently running OSFG 6G as well (this is my first Run through). I was planning on completing this Run through (which is 3 months long), taking a week to 2 week break and then doing another run through after that. 
From what you’re suggesting it sounds like it’d be better to take a break and run a different sub for a while and then come back to OFSG after that sub’s run through is completed. 

I’m confused about this because in a previous post it was mentioned that when running OSFG you don’t want to take a really long break between run throughs as it’s doing a massive amount of work and needs the safety net of the program in order to complete the goals of the program. I can’t find your (Shannon’s) exact post on this but I do recall seeing on @Frosted’s thread this post https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OGSF3?pid=268687#pid268687 of him talking about what I had also seen from you in another thread regarding the proper instructions for using OSFG for multiple run throughs. 

I just wanted to ask for clarification on this in order to make sure I’m using the program correctly and get the most from it that I can each time I use it. I hope my question makes sense, if not please just let me know. Thank you!

Shannon Wrote:I have had to start using OPH v2 while I am developing OPH v3 because my lungs have gotten so irritated so often that I am unable to fall asleep at night otherwise. The pattern of irritation, as usual strongly suggests that it is caused by a very deep, very primitive part of my subconscious expressing fear of something, and attempting to limit me this way to protect itself from what it fears.

I have taken this sort of thing into account in the design of OPH v3, so it should work well for most if not all such "self inflicted" health issues.

OPH v3 has had three goal additions so far (from 7 ideas, the rest of which did not pass modeling). While I was adding those, I came up with 8 more goal ideas, of which another 3 have passed modeling, and will be or have been added.

I hope to be done adding and developing these goals in a couple days.

I can feel it that OPH v3 is going to be something special.