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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ncbeareatingman - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 10:10 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Volume-3?pid=269466#pid269466
Shannon Wrote:I am currently in the design phase for AM 7. I am also working on DMSI v5.1, which was only the addition of the DRS, and workingon the instructions for that. Since AM will take me months, I will be working on other titles in the mean time.
Next up is Optimal Physical Healing, because it's one of the runners up, and because I need it myself.
I'll be publishing DMSI v5.1 as soon as I get the instructions done.
Speaking of that, modeling reveals that DMSI and DMSI v5.0 and 5.1 actually need not two, but three sets of instructions: Normal, Hard Case and Extreme Hard Case, for everyone to get the best out of these programs. I'll be updating the instructions for v5.0 when I have the information.
And the grooviness continues as does the depth !! Optimal Physical Healing hell Yes , I Love it!!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ncbeareatingman - 08-26-2025
I said I wasnt going to say a damn ting about the AM7 reaction/response.....however, f--k it ,here goes... in brief.
All this shit about 'Ascended Alpha Male" and the controversy there of... it reminds of of telling some one' Hey Man, you need to stop smoking' or "Hye, Man, I've gotta "Stop smoking forever" program" for you...JUST THE THOUGHT, the idea, the Unmitigated Gall ( to the ego). to suggest such a thing ,sends them into total panic mode, triggered out the ying yang...
Oh MY gosh, Oh my Gawd, hands,arms flailing about, drama drama, dra-mati-que! Just the thought of quitting smoking sends then into hellashious terror. Think about it "Dudes'.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ReconGunner - 08-26-2025
The idea that someone else might actually improve themselves is scary to a lot of people. Shannon's commentary on subconscious fear explains a lot of it - "if that other person changes and improves they might exceed me, and that's a threat to me", "if that person changes and improves I don't have any more excuses, and that's a threat to me", etc. Among other things, this is why DRS is so useful when using Shannon's stuff - people who recognize that you are changing and improving will often react negatively towards you, even if it is only a reaction by their own subconscious.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ncbeareatingman - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 11:06 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: The idea that someone else might actually improve themselves is scary to a lot of people. Shannon's commentary on subconscious fear explains a lot of it - "if that other person changes and improves they might exceed me, and that's a threat to me", "if that person changes and improves I don't have any more excuses, and that's a threat to me", etc. Among other things, this is why DRS is so useful when using Shannon's stuff - people who recognize that you are changing and improving will often react negatively towards you, even if it is only a reaction by their own subconscious.
Agreed & experienced , even recently in MY own family. you nailed it Man. DRS 6G is imperative!! I use MY rejuvenizer's, the telepathic clearings from Dr. Light, My orgone, And DRS 6G. Imperative.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - StridingStrider - 08-26-2025
Extreme hard case? Dang.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 11:59 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: Extreme hard case? Dang.
AKA, CatMan, and the extremely rare few others in the world who share his confluence of personality traits, experiences and responses to those experiences, which result in extreme challenge in achieving the goals of this program. These guys are probably 1 in a million, but they're out there, and we want to try to help them too.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ncbeareatingman - 08-26-2025
Shannon, it is my sincere hope that by December, or Early January 2026,that you will start working on Aura of Love ( with a special twist 'in it" that is a " Love Healer" effect for Self and Others in 'sniping range', so to speak, within a certain given radius .).
Ding dang it Festus,,sometimes I wish that I could use 5 of these suckers, at one time, to get it on, bang a gong. I Know full well, that that is not the case, but ding dang it, sometimes I wish it were!!
For those few that dont know this, Shannon's programs are ONLY to be used 1 at a time, the only time you can use two, is One regular Title and then One Shield ( Direct Reflection, Black Shield, ect) that is AFTER you've used the Main Title program, first !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIL6QW4qw2I
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Benjamin - 08-26-2025
Quote:All this shit about 'Ascended Alpha Male" and the controversy there of... it reminds of of telling some one' Hey Man, you need to stop smoking' or "Hye, Man, I've gotta "Stop smoking forever" program" for you...JUST THE THOUGHT, the idea, the Unmitigated Gall ( to the ego). to suggest such a thing ,sends them into total panic mode, triggered out the ying yang...
Oh MY gosh, Oh my Gawd, hands,arms flailing about, drama drama, dra-mati-que! Just the thought of quitting smoking sends then into hellashious terror. Think about it "Dudes'.
Good insight.
Yep, that's definately another aspect of it. Since society has gone so far into demonizing men.. suddenly it's like "how dare a man take steps to strengthen himself or other men!".
Very sadly I would expect terms like 'toxic masculinity' and 'gendered language' from a woman, but a man saying that crap blows my mind. A man who says any of that very much matches the vibe of exactly what was being talked about in the original post. And will never have respect from most other men, other than the ones also pretending for brownie points.
It's not even a term I really use in that context, nor do I care either way, most of my issue is the whole mindset presented from the guys upset about it.
I was saying to an older (as in been here a while) member that imagine in the AM 2010/11 and 5.0 days there would have never been any of this weak nonsense. But you know now were living in an idiocracy.
You guys who are upset at this, I have the perfect thing for you that matches your mindset and exactly what you're looking for. Go through multiple 32 day stages of this new group and you will be the man you've always wanted to be!
(spew icon, sadly there's none available).
https://mensgroup.com/mens-cuddling-group/
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 08-26-2025
To clarify something, "toxic masculinity" is actually a valid term, and it's original meaning was concerning masculine traits that cause a man to self harm as a result of taking things too far or in an unhealthy direction; for example, repression of his emotions to the degree that it is unhealthy for him, or being violent in a genuinely unnecessary and or abusive manner. Unfortunately, this term has been subverted by certain groups to attempt to manipulate men into guilt/shame/fear of their own masculinity, which has only made things worse and muddied the water.
"Toxic masculinity" originally was primarily concerned with men taking things too far and causing themselves harm in the process. Because of the subversion, it has become a useless term, IMO, because now it's definition does not match what it was originally focused on, and it has been weaponized.
Alpha Male is not going to result in self harm to those who use it. It is actually aimed at the reverse, bringing a man into self empowerment and helping him find the balance of self respect, sense of self worth, self esteem, refusal to be manipulated or taken advantage of, etc. Part of the early journey with that is going to be inner healing work. So no worried about "toxic masculinity" in the original sense of the word. However, those who define "toxic masculinity" in a way that is aimed at manipulating, shaming and or guilting men simply for being masculine or trying to focus into their masculinity will surely take issue with what AM7 is aimed to be. After all, the real reason behind the subversion of the term is to achieve and maintain control of men, and genuine masculinity is strongly in favor of a man being in control of himself, including what he does and believes, instead of handing that power to someone (or something) else (as seems to currently be the objective of previously mentioned certain groups).
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - kserenyi - 08-26-2025
Hey Shannon
I'm nearing the end of my first UMS 3.1 full run-through plus 4 week break, but I haven't noticed any obvious results yet. Should I maybe change formats for my second full run-through, or should I continue powering through using ultrasonic?
Thanks!
Edit: Nevermind - I see at the end of the program's instructions that Ultrasonic is always best.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 05:09 PM)kserenyi Wrote:(08-26-2025, 03:42 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Good insight.
Yep, that's definately another aspect of it. Since society has gone so far into demonizing men.. suddenly it's like "how dare a man take steps to strengthen himself or other men!".
Very sadly I would expect terms like 'toxic masculinity' and 'gendered language' from a woman, but a man saying that crap blows my mind. A man who says any of that very much matches being a 'bitch'. And will never have respect from most other men, other than the ones also pretending for brownie points.
It's not even a term I really use in that context, nor do I care either way, most of my issue is the whole mindset presented from the guys upset about it.
I was saying to an older (as in been here a while) member that imagine in the AM 2010/11 and 5.0 days there would have never been any of this weak nonsense. But you know now were living in an idiocracy.
You guys who are upset at this, I have the perfect thing for you that matches your mindset and exactly what you're looking for. Go through multiple 32 day stages of this new group and you will be the man you've always wanted to be!
(spew icon, sadly there's none available).
https://mensgroup.com/mens-cuddling-group/
Yes, we get your points already.
You’re extremely thin-skinned.
You’re subject to childish temper tantrums.
You blame everyone else and society for your problems.
You lash out at other members knowing that your position on this website shields you from consequences.
I can definitely see why Shannon would conclude that the alpha male and masculinity programs you've listened to need a major overhaul.
Are you asking for a ban, dude? Because we can give you one. This is unnecessary and insulting to both Ben and myself. If you value your access to this forum and my programs, you'd better check yourself before you wreck yourself. That is out of line.
Ben, please tone it down. We don't need to have flame wars over this.
Ultimately, AM will be what I make it, and it's not going to be a bad thing.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Catman - 08-26-2025
Thank you for the new listening mode for V5.0/V5.1, @Shannon.
Is there an update for V5.0's new listening regimen, yet?
I ask because the listening cycle is back on in a couple hours or so and I tend to like to listen when the day change happens because I have had uninterrupted time then reliably.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Benjamin - 08-26-2025
Despite what you are trying to present, I actually speak out against this stuff even in places I don't have some 'special position' as you say, both online and in real life.
Aswell as other things that I strongly believe in or am against. Even in places where the majority disagreed.
If your perception of men standing up against something strongly and not tolerating it is those things you mention, then I highly doubt you have ever actually been in your masculine polarity.
Anyway, that's enough from me on that. My thoughts are known and Shannon is right, I do get heated on these things.. but that doesn't discount any of the points I made. I will reply to the constructive thoughts from other members around this area though.
I miss the days on here where there was a good number of guys who really understood this stuff and were connected with their masculinity, where the conversations were actually constructive and about building each other up. I worry that in the current representation of society I may be hoping for too much to find that again.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 06:24 PM)Catman Wrote: Thank you for the new listening mode for V5.0/V5.1, @Shannon.
Is there an update for V5.0's new listening regimen, yet?
I ask because the listening cycle is back on in a couple hours or so and I tend to like to listen when the day change happens because I have had uninterrupted time then reliably.
I am working on the extreme cases now, but it is likely to be sometime tomorrow when I am finished.